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I posted this in the introductions section but I think I need to post it here.

I recently finished a Christian Webcomic,

Johnny B. Goode

I have been working on ideas for several years for old school 50s style Superhero comics with Christian Characters. I have a lot of Ideas but I'm not a great writer, anyway let me know what you think. I can't seem to get any feedback. Please tell me honestly. I'm not going to change this Johnny B. Goode story but it could help me with the next one. I eventually want to introduce my Christian superhero group The Shock Squad into this 1950s world and have stories involving doctrine, christian issues, apologetics, and biblical teaching using superheros fighting evil as the metaphor of spiritual warfare.

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I wish I had written that sequence differently. I didn't want to make Prayer Johnny's super power. I could say God blessed Johnny in spite of his lying. I was thinking about Samson when I did it, if you look at Samson he prayed and God gave him strength to Kill the Philistines and basically commit suicide.

I'm glad it matters though. This is the difference between Christian and Secular characters their actions matter.

Lying to cover your mistakes and sins is wrong. But the example of Rahab, the Nazi's etc. is and example of lying but for a good purpose. I don't think God would be pleased if you said "the Jews are in the closet" and sealed their death. You would be telling the truth but it would be a sin to tell the truth at that point.

How could it be otherwise? God is not a tyrant expecting us to follow a rule to the letter that would lead to someone's death.

Back to Johnny, he lied to Millicent, off panel he lied to her many times. He lied because he didn't want to tell her he is a Superhero. It is somewhat selfish, he could tell her. But it is mostly because he believes he is falling in love with her and he wants to be honest with her.

I wanted to explore the whole Lois, Clark, Superman thing. In the old Superman comics he made a game out of tricking Lois and deceiving her. I wanted to explore that Johnny can't do that, he is troubled by lying to her. There are other Superheroes involved if Johnny tells her he implicates them as well.

   I'm with you, Buzz. 

   Alika, Buzz's scenario leaves us with basically 2 choices-

  1. Tell the truth by saying the wife is in your home, and thus ensuring her death.
  2. Tell a lie, and save her life.

   When faced with such a dilemma, we as Christians ought to think which choice leads to the greatest good. Which choice has the godliest result?

   But I would disagree with Christopher on a point when he said: "I don't think God would be pleased if you said "the Jews are in the closet" and sealed their death. You would be telling the truth but it would be a sin to tell the truth at that point.

   Maybe it's hair splitting, but I think it is NEVER a sin to tell the truth. At worst I would say it was completely stupid, or brain-numbingly unwise, but never a sin in the literal sense.

   To Alika's point, when we lie to save someone's life I think the lie is still a sin. After all, if God is truth to tell a lie is sinful. Always.

   But the question is what is the greater sin? The lie, or the murder of an innocent?- And which leads to the greatest good?

   Not sure what you're getting at here, Buzz. Again, I am not against lying in certain cases IF in fact it serves the greater good.

   But the term "sinful lie" is redundant. As God is truth a lie by definition is sinful.

   ALL lies are sinful, but that doesn't mean they aren't the right things to do at times.

   "Is it a sinful lie to pretend to be a bear when playing with a child?"

   Nope. Playful pretending is not sinful.

   "Is it a sinful lie to act like you're the prince of Denmark on a stage?"

   Nope. Acting on a stage (professional pretending) is not sinful.

   "Is it a sinful lie to tell a dying person help is on the way?"

   No. That is, if help IS actually on the way. It is a sin to tell a dying person they will live, however, if in fact there is no hope of living. BUT!... perhaps that is the most humane thing to do at the moment. How knows?

   "Is it a sinful lie to tell a fictitious story to make a moral point?"

   Nope. Telling fictitious stories to teach moral lessons is not sinful. Neither is telling fictitious stories about trains moving at different speeds towards the same point as a way to teach math sinful. 

   "Did every parable Christ taught literally, factually happen?"

   Nope. But then again, did He try to convince people they actually did, or did everyone know He was just trying to make a point?

   And by "how knows?" I mean "who knows?"

   Heh.

"There are some very rare, very specific incidents where it is morally and ethically better to give false information rather than factual information."

   Absolutely. I agree 100%. This is what I have been saying, but...

   I think it's a mistake to say there are "sinful" lies and "non-sinful or harmless" lies.

   Like I said, I believe it is biblical to say that ALL lies are sinful by definition. But that doesn't mean that there are times when lying is the better thing to do.

   So, I think it is clearer to say that ALL lies are sinful, but sometimes lying is justified.

@Crespo Thank you for cleaning up that mess of straws. XD

I am curious where you're getting this Hillary speech from the scriptures, for the greater good.

@Christopher Johnny hasn't lied on paper or in your published story so far he's told the truth too milly. and God will never bless people for their lying, lying is not okay.

Alika,

   I got it from applying logical thought to biblical principles. (Also known as using my God-given mind.)

   It's a lost skill, unfortunately.

Don't say that, cause that'd mean you made it up. Christians can't be making up their own beliefs that'd be so Romney..

   There you go, Alika. I'm sorry, but you have a chronic case of loose mouth syndrome. (Or in this case, loose fingers.)

   Applying logical thought to the real-life application of biblical principles is far from "making it up", as you accuse in your typical knee-jerk fashion. I would argue it is what God would have us do as His mature children.

   It is simply living the Christian life thoughtfully.

   And I would expect a small amount of respect, or benefit of the doubt that I am NOT merely making it up. But, maybe that's asking too much. You seem to think that if you don't agree with someone that someone is either ignorant, stupid, or plain ol' sinful.

   No, I don't expect you to agree, or even to be civil, it seems to go against your nature.

   So, for the sake of my witness, the respect of my brothers and sisters here, and the conversational tone of this site, I won't respond to your posts any more on any subject. Way too much time has been spent in fruitless argumentation.

   Like I said before... way to much heat, but no light.

   And Buzz, as to your comment: "I trust we're all appreciative of the fact that we're debating over the moral & ethical behavior of a fictional character..."

   I'd say that's kinda like a parable, yes? Dealing with truths through fictional scenarios?

   Nothin' sinful about that!

   Peace, my friend.

I like this. It has a nice retro feel to it, but it seems more from the 1940s than the 1950s. I also like the idea of the girlfriend holding him accountable, but you might want to develop her personality a bit more. Also, you might want to explain his relationship with the police. I've dealt with the police on some matters before and they're kind of picky about their 'turf'.



Mike Jacobs said:

I like this. It has a nice retro feel to it, but it seems more from the 1940s than the 1950s. I also like the idea of the girlfriend holding him accountable, but you might want to develop her personality a bit more. Also, you might want to explain his relationship with the police. I've dealt with the police on some matters before and they're kind of picky about their 'turf'.

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